Macbook Pro (2016) Disappointment Pushes Some Apple Loyalis

I think you are mis-understand me. I am talking about my personal setup and hype for the computer, not saying every professional should embrace it. Obviously, everyone has different preferences and that's okay - plenty of options out there. I'm only speaking for my own professional workflow.> Oh, fuck you.Wow, nice. I love how the internet can really bring out absolute nastiness in people. Why are talking about a laptop that doesn't fit your needs. If it's not for you that's fine. LOTS of laptops out there. If you don't like Apple's direction, vote with your wallet and take yur business elsewhere, but don't insult me with personal attacks because I'm just stating the obvious -- you've communicated that the new MacBook Pro is not for you, I'm communicating that I am a Professional and I *will* be using it. There's nothing wrong with that and you don't have to childishly attack me for that. Jesus.> I don't think your weight savings on a thinner MBP matter at all when you have to carry an adapter to plug your phone into your laptop and an adapter to plug an SD card into your "Pro" laptop. Saving a pound or two on the weight of a laptop is massively outweighed by having to carry extra adapters for any professional that travels constantly...Adapter? I'll just have a single USB Type C lightning cable and a type C charger. I won;t carry the legacy USB Type A cable or charger at all. No change there.The Satechi break out box WITH PACKAGING is 1.8 ounces. I estimate the box itself will be 1.6oz.Plus, I like thinness.Why are you so emotionally invested in my personal tastes? I just want to dispel the myth that there's no Professionals out there that want this laptop. I have a feeling sales will be just fine.

A dirty piece of plexiglas is an alternative.Not a particulary *desirable* alternative...

They use(d) a wacom digitizer? Did that change?

As far as I know that's just a Surface Pro thing, the Surface Book has a full standard laptop keyboard that's just removable.

I'd be buying a dock anyway. No laptop is going to have all the ports I need, so there's no reason to try.

At least your not buying an Office Suite on a subscription basis on a "Pro" device.Back to your point, you've had to buy adapters for anything for ages. I recently found an Ethernet to USB adapter from the 90's.

The way I use my Mac now, my dock is my thunderbolt display. Not sure what I'd need to bring to meetings. Even for projecting we just use Miracast at this point.

Yeah, I'd wager something is wrong there.

Although I owned a 2008 MacBook, I actually didn't make the full switch till 2013. I really took a hard look after a lifetime of building my own machines and running windows and tinkering ... it just wasn't worth my time. The Apple Tax translates to so much time and frustration savings, the fact that if something is wrong I can just walk into an Apple Store and say "fix it" and have so much extra time with my family is worth paying FAR more than what I pay for Apple products.

We have two in house devs. One will be getting the new machine. He was already used to holding the Fn key to get access to that row. I don't think he is anticipating any issues, but maybe the workflows are different.As a creative director that also produces designs -- I am about as professional as you can get -- handling UX and UI designs, light front end development, branding, and photography.I guess time will tell. If sales take a nose dive on these models compared to prior models, the nay-sayers will be proven right! It's certainly a possibility.

I am a dev and will have zero issues with the new function key setup.

I don't know what kind of programmer you are, but, as a programmer, I really don't use f-keys that much. To run the program, sure, but I think and write code far more than that.

Sorry I meant a good trackpad.

Uh, I have this 5D Mk2, no SD card slot. Same with the 7D Mk1 too.But I assume newer models have SD card slots?

I was being kinda facetious. But surely if you're a photographer who's buying a $4,000 computer and presumably has a camera worth several thousand dollars, you can afford a $20 USB-C SD card reader. Apple doesn't need to deal with the added complexity and additional possibilities of component failure that having an SD card slot would mean for a laptop.

They still can...

Exactly. As I mentioned in another comment, I use Photoshop as part of making a living for myself. There's no way I could go without it. There's not a chance I could do what I do with GIMP. Even if I could, there's no way it'll be as time efficient. In my eye's, GIMP is a upgrade to Windows Paint.

Exactly, "general use". I'm using Photoshop in part to make a living

No you aren't reading, I've covered exactly what I mean in the comment and given examples of good open source software.

Well it is and isn't Fedora's fault. I've run into a ton of proprietary apps that don't work well or are rarely updated. The issue is that people package RPMs that depend on system libraries that frequently change.The solution is Flatpak or Snap, but its early days for both technologies and we have two competing standards.

17 machines? - lol...Ok, so in relation to overall PC sales (64 million this quarter), it's quite small, now isn't it? -/sMy point being, it wouldn't make a dent in the PC marketplace, meaning what's right for your industry isn't necessarily right for everybody else. And vice-versa.

https://www.ifixit.com/Device/MacBook_AirOne note: you need to buy certain tools that you won't have laying around. I like the ifixit kits, but there are others out there as well. You could even just buy the exact pentalobes drivers that you need without a kit.

Yeah, I guess I should qualify that. I've taken apart MBAs and the old MBPs. I haven't had a retina MBP apart, so maybe they've made them worse.

They use pretty mainstream chipsets (they'd rather throw money at Intel and make sure shit works) and there's a *lot* of development for thinkpads due to their popularity in IT.

I wrote "fuck you" in response to your comment about Macs not being for me. I'm the professional content creator that Apple used to love. Apple has consistently fucked content creators by releasing shitty laptops that can't be upgraded since the MBP Retina. I used to defend Apple against charges of being overpriced because their Pro line of laptops was evenly priced against other Pro offerings and was easy to upgrade. Apple has become the company of shitty overpriced hardware that dipshits used to say they were.

No idea, I tried out the one at the Microsoft store and it sucked. Maybe they have different models.

I'll have to check it out when it gets in store, thanks for the info. I'm too lazy to look anything up.

>At least your not buying an Office Suite on a subscription basis on a "Pro" device.You do realize every mac shop in existence pays for MS Office the exact same way?

I once had a refurbished iPhone5 that I got from a reseller. The phone didn't work. I said fix it. They said we cannot fix give us another 300eur for another iPhone. Never again.

>I can just walk into an Apple Store and say "fix it"As I understand, this is being significantly rolled back. Hope you got AppleCare.