Macbook Pro (2016) Disappointment Pushes Some Apple Loyalis

MacBook Pro (2016) disappointment pushes some Apple loyalists to Ubuntu Linux BetaNews

I've been a Mac user even through the near bankruptcy days in the mid-late 90's, through Steve's return, the turn around, PPC to intel switch, ect.My 2014 15" MBPr Quad 2.5Ghz might be my last Mac. Apple is no longer interested in what used to be their core users, it's sad.

I have tried out Mac and prefer Linux. Ubuntu os OK but I am not a huge unity fan.

Aesthetically though, omg, that system76 laptop looks like an ugly piece of shit.

Yeah, I'm sure all those creative pros are going to ditch Adobe and move over to GIMP.

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[Year of Linux when?](http://i.imgur.com/1vqvWmv.png)

I would put my next bucks on an Intel PC, maybe a couple of years old or a good small footprint PC running a current Linux. Best bang for the buck and best OS.I have a two-year old MacBook running the latest Mac OS X, but I think that for what I do, Ubuntu and other Linices are better. OS X is really geared for Media types. If you want a good OS, Linux is better.Mac Hardware is expensive to begin with and Apple is migrating it to be closed and more oriented to social media rather than computing, note reduction of ports and things like souldered SSD on main board of some devices. That is really bad and it tells you that Apple is going to charge you a huge price to get in and an even larger price if anything goes wrong. I am less inclined to go with Apple which I believe has been resting on its laurels since Jobs died. I also think that Apple has become greedy like many corporations in the world, it has lost its vision and creative edge, which made paying the "Apple Tax" compelling. Having used a Mac Book Pro for two years along side Linux systems, I am not all that impressed.Being able to run bash under Windows 10, after being forced to install a developer pack, is not all that compelling. I'd much rather have to choice to buy a bare PC with proven support for Linux than to have to run it in dual boot with Windows 10 or be forced to run Linux with aproval from Microsoft, another greedy corporation.

linux pays the bills, osx let me admin linux

Really like the plug for System76.com - it's good to see the little guys getting some attention

I would tell people to shy away from System76.I fully spec'd mine out (Serval Pro) and it didn't last two years.After lots of troubleshooting it came down to be the fans.They wanted additional $ to replace them when at that cost a company should've goodwill'd them. Every time I use the computer I have to R&R the fans after cleaning, which lasts less than a week before I need to do it again and the machine will beep and turn off when it reaches temp.For a comparison, one of my MBP recently had a failed graphics card.I found the extended warranty program online (it was an Early 2011) and brought it in for repair. Not only did Apple replace the entire logic board, they completely refurbished the machine. Whole new clamshell case top & bottom (indicated that it showed signs of wear), new screen (distorted display), battery (failing, throttling machine to 1 core), and power supply (faulty). Basically an entirely new computer 5 years later.That is customer service.

Don't blame mac users for wanting to jump ship. Hell I applaud those that do it but that unboxing video in the link was horrible.I'm amazed the guy didn't dislocate his shoulder while jerking himself off by not cutting himself with his really sharp knife while lamenting that if he did it would get him even more youtube hits. He had to be using a go pro so he could be constantly rubbing one out while marveling at the art of the inside of the box.I had to shut that shit off after that. That laptop has some sexy specs though. Too bad that douchebag couldn't keep it together for a decent unboxing.

I crossed over into Apple territory when Vista happened. I have lots of macs and have also been buying the surface pros since they started coming out too.Don't get me wrong. The surfaces are fine devices and have gotten better with each iteration. But I'm not ready to switch back to windows for three reasons:1. windows is just worse than OSX. Cosmetically and behaviourally. I know the second part here might be more opinion than fact but I've had a lot less problems with OSX than I have with W102. OSX is unix baked and I write a lot of software (including iOS in fact) so I'm pretty much tethered to OSX only at this point3. build quality. High quality windows machines are rare. I would class the SP4 as being a high quality windows machine but still not on par with the quality you know you're getting with an apple productThe Macbook fiasco has really ticked me off at Apple. I'll probably end up staying within their ecosystem but I'll just be using my 2014 rMBP and rImac until 2020 or something before I consider upgrading. I can afford to upgrade as often as I'd like, but just the principle of dropping 5k on a macbook every other year, as opposed to 2k leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.

been on linux for 3 years bc of apple's bullshit. its mostly better over here anyway

My next phone will probably be the OnePlus Four when and if that comes out. I just cannot justify paying upwards of £750 for a phone that has less internal storage than what I currently have, and a complete lack of external flash memory support.I would have waited for my OnePlus One to die out, then bought an iPhone 7, but a lack of headphone jack is a deal breaker. I for one like wired headphones, and cannot justify paying an extortionate amount for a wireless pair that would probably be less comfortable than a decent pair of Sennheisers.

I moved to Linux from Windows in 1999, then moved to OSX in 2006 due to the hardware quality and underlying Unix setup. Windows 10 now has a Bash shell and I'm considering picking up a Microsoft Surface Book since the hardware seems better now.

> Alternatively, I headed to System76 and configured its 15-inch Oryx Pro (you can do so here). I closely matched the MacBook Pro specs, with a Quad-core Sklyake i7 and NVMe 256GB SSD. Instead of 16GB of RAM as found on the Apple, I configured with 32GB (you can go up to 64GB if needed). By default, it comes with a 6GB Nvidia GTX 1060. The price? Less than $2,000! In other words, the System76 machine with much better specs is less expensive than Apple's.The display of the Orxy laptops seems to top out at 1920 × 1080.How *droll*.Can I get it in CGA?

I love mac OS but hate iOS and don't like the current apple hardware offerings.

It is not the software. It is a hardware problem.Moving to Ubuntu doesn't do anything.

> famed Ubuntu laptop and desktop seller, [redacted], saw a huge jump in traffic from people looking to buy its machines. The traffic was so intense, that it needed to upgrade servers to keep up!Did it really? I mean, seriously?

I have used Apple computers since 1988 and followed their path. A Mac now boils down to a development box and some ease of use and hardware robustness. Since I do not see the point of getting a brand new one, I recycle every five year-old machine I stumble onto and I am good to go.

Bought a PC desktop and an XPS 13 in the last 3 days. I used Macs in the 90s, too. I've seen this movie before.

I was wondering if this was going to happen more progressively...

What? This doesn't even make sense... "well I was really disappointed with the new hardware so I switched software"

Ubuntu is not a good replacement for OSX in any way shape or form. That's a completely ridiculous headline.

I just got an Acer Swift 3 for a family member for $500. Running Windows 7 of course but it has a all metal case, is very lightweight and looks very much like a Macbook. For that prices it was a great deal.

It would have pushed about 3 people to Ubuntu so i guess that is some apple loyalists?

If it pushes them to Ubuntu I have no doubt that they'll come crawling back.

I keep hearing the SD card excuse for hating the Macbook Pro. Dude...hook up your $3000 camera with the damn USB cable (your camera probably came with one) directly to your MacBook. Yeah, you gotta buy a new USB-C to micro-B cable for $10 on Amazon, but what's the big deal. You bought a $3000 camera, so what's $10 for a cable that's objectively better. I understand taking your cards out of the camera in the field when they're full, but when you're at your desk, uploading photos, just hook your camera up to the computer. It's not like you're actively using your camera and while your photos are transferring, the USB port can charge the battery too.

I'm so, so sorry.