Macbook Pro (2016) Disappointment Pushes Some Apple Loyalis

I wouldn't trust crossover/wine for anything professional. As a developer I'm fine with Ubuntu, but as a designer I'd rather run Windows.

2017 will be the Year of Linux, no doubt.

The colorspace management advantages macOS has will probably keep pros from leaving.

>Crossover/wine runs photoshop on linux.Photoshop is already a shit-show on Windows. God forbid you try to do raw video.>For other things like 3D, drawing and vectors there are great linux tools for that (blender, krita, inkscape)Blender works pretty well, but Inkscape really isn't in the same league - especially given all the integration.

I don't get pressure sensitivity on those.

Most of the gamut of people who will be buying those new macs will be. I'm not bashing Linux (excuse the pun), but the article is bullshit in terms of jumping ship to Linux. Windows on the other hand..

Hi, Creative Director at a decent sized agency here and heavily involved in the creative agency industry.Photoshop is the defacto standard in our industry. Other tools are used, yes, but it's very rare to find a photoshop-free team.

Linux tends to work rather well on Macs. It's a single piece of hardware used by many people, so there's lots of people who make sure that everything works nicely. There's also not too few developers who buy Macbooks, just to put Linux on them.

But a mac is a pc.. :/

Why not?

And I've tried them all. Day to day, OSX is just more comfortable to work in as an admin. Basically everything else I do, save for gaming, is done under linux but my workflow is simply easier under osx, my fingers feel more comfortable.

I don't like hanging on to them too long after apple care expires because of common issues these things have, since they are now virtually non self-repairable outside of minor things.

The new bash on windows is spectacular! I ran my companies entire backend locally on it (need to for development) and it worked great!But yeah, after using OS X for the past 8 years I can't stomach how horrible the Windows UI is. W10 is an improvement over W8 no doubt, but the font, lack of gestures, total and utter lack of standards for application UI, it's just.... worse

eh. I mean sure they've progressed but they still all have common problems too. Worse displays, worse trackpads (or just a lack of gesture support due to Windows), OEM installed bloatware, and then there's just the stability of OS X vs Windows. Again I'll put this more into the opinion category but as an avid fan and user of the surface lineup and heavy user of both OSes, I've had a lot more trouble with stability on Windows than I have on OS X. I even think this is perfectly fair though. Windows has to run on a lot more hardware, an infinite number of hardware configurations really. So you end up with a bunch of funky problems, particularly when you're upgrading to a new OS. The benefit to this scenario though is that there's a lot more hardware competition in the Windows hardware ecosystem, so you're not paying $5,000 for a machine with 16GB of ram. Usually.

I did spend mac kind of money. I got hit with the famous Vista 4GB ram problem, along with a lot of driver troubles with my sound, network and graphics drivers. It was a disaster.

I use OptimalLayout. http://most-advantageous.com/optimal-layout/There also others.. Spectacle is open source for example https://www.spectacleapp.comAnother paid app is Moom https://manytricks.com/moom/

I kind of miss setting up Linux and customizing it, I find that all really fun, but at the same time I like how apple hands you something unix like that is all gift wrapped and easily maintained from the get go. I don't know. I would probably be quite happy to go back to Linux as my main OS but I would just miss the polish of OSX

MacOSX may be more polished, but only for what apple wants you to do. The UI General set has be feeling like I'm wadding through syrup. The obsolesce of macs can be annoying. My Mac wouldn't last this long unless it was running linux.While people say macosx has great hardware support, only for Mac stuff. Lots of stuff basic need drivers. It's easier experience running linux on a Mac than MacOSX on a non Mac. Like the new fell xps 13, or chromeBooks, buy linux software sbd it's excellent.Beyond that, just switch to various programs. Blender, Krita, inkscape, etc

Linux is a flaming pain in the ass with poor support for less used chipset issues like battery management.Mac OSX works really well, though it has some issues with enterprise file systems (which I don't deal with.) That said, I'm actually not that fond of the GUI - I liked my LXDE setup better, because I'm a freak - and if Linux had similar battery life and ran Adobe software, I'd be using it.

Not true.
[Source](http://www.howtogeek.com/265900/everything-you-can-do-with-windows-10s-new-bash-shell/)>When you're in the Linux environment, you can access your Windows drives from under the /mnt/ folder. Your C: drive is located at /mnt/c and your D: drive is located at /mnt/d, for example.

No. It is literally the Ubuntu file system on top of Windows. Once you mount the C drive, you have Ubuntu with no walls.

My W530 is reaching the end of its life . What you list there sounds like a good candidate (for engineering software). Hadn't heard of the P50 until this thread, thanks.Do you know how it compares to the Dell Precision and the HP? Last time I made this decision it came down to those 3.

How do you know, asshole? You don't speak for me.

I give you a point for the batteries, my 4 year old mac book pro barely lasted two hours under regular use, however everything else ran smoothly.

Thanks for the precision. I was mentioning old boxes with removable batteries : one 1998 iMac (Flower Power model) still in use (for music sequences mostly - old software installed on it : Max, CSound, BolProcessor, etc.); a now defunct PowerBook which lasted from 2003 till 2013; a 2010 Mac Mini (hard disk replaced by SSD and RAM added); 2005 iBook & two iMacs (2005 and 2007) still rocking.Obviously, that's enough for what I do on it (nothing heavy, mostly terminal, programming, browsing and experimental music).

Then what if you got a $15 SD card reader?http://plugable.com/products/usbc-flash3/

I mean, out of curiosity, name some? I'm not defending it but I don't think anything beyond my camera and my phone use an SD card.

TBF most machines wearing the pro moniker dont have full sized SD slots.

Different strokes for different folks. My 70D connects via Wifi, and the docking station I'll have in my studio has all the ports and SD slots I need -- with one connection that is also powering my laptop.My current workflow requires FIVE plugs that a single breakout box with a single cable will now take care of.YMMV as always

I agree, the last good "pro" device by apple was the mac pro. But at 3000 entry level it was a tough buy