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楼主第 61 楼 ·
LOL. Isn't that supposed to be a "definition/opinion" instead of a "term"?
楼主第 62 楼 ·
Yes I did borrow that concept from Michael Raduga.
楼主第 63 楼 ·
I found this Reddit when I was googling... wait, you meant how I got involved with the "Western Lucid Dreamer" community? I'm a U.S. citizen, and I had been involved in the lucid dreaming/astral projection/OBE communities online way back in the CompuServe, Prodigy, and AOL days, LOL.
楼主第 64 楼 ·
Any. I always use nose-plug since IMO it is the most reliable.
楼主第 65 楼 ·
Upon becoming lucid, especially the ones which you rise from your bed, it is important to perform some stabilization techniques first. Try these:- Grab and examine small objects in your room. Examine a few in a row, don't stop at one for too long. Try touching, flipping, reading.- Crawl on floor.- Shout something such as "More lucidity now!".Once the dream stabilizes you should leave the house scene as quickly as possible. Also you should constantly remind yourself that you are dreaming, and set and reset goals frequently -- don't set far-reaching goals, instead, break your actions into smaller milestones. For example, see that stair? Consider reaching the top of it a milestone. Upon reaching the top, immediately set another goal.Hope this helps.
楼主第 66 楼 ·
Thomas Yuschak in his excellent book "Advanced Lucid Dreaming -- The Power of Supplements" talks about this in depth. My personal experience also confirms it. I also saw a few academic papers on this subject. However, I'm no neuroscientist so I won't say which theory is right or wrong in the definitive way.
楼主第 67 楼 ·
You're welcome. I suggest you read the book "The Power of Supplements" from Thomas Yuschak. It will give you a lot more useful info.
楼主第 68 楼 ·
Remembering no dreams at all during your first awakening is a sign that Melatonin worked. It suppressed your REM sleeps during the early part of your sleep. The strain you felt on your eyes is normal. As long as it does not cause you to lose sleep it is okay. Don't pay attention to them because with the cycling you will soon move your focus to other senses and in turn relax the eyes. Doing a few extra quick cycles might help too.You saw some imagery forming in front of you, and you should consider that a semi-success! It is sign that you are getting close to a WILD. Next time you see this type of HIs you should stop cycling and observe them while remaining relaxed and passive. As you enter the dream they will get more intense, which is quite an experience but nothing to be afraid of... actually they are quite enjoyable.The other thing is with the many alarms. You shouldn't use alarms one you begin using SSILD. The technique will wake you naturally, and many of the awakenings are False Awakening which you can use to enter a LD. If if they are not FAs you may still be under some sort of light trance which you can utilize to achieve WILDs much more easily. Using alarms disrupts them so it's no good.
楼主第 69 楼 ·
What's your point?
第 70 楼 ·
"terms" meaning series of word to express an idea.
第 71 楼 ·
Nice.
第 72 楼 ·
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第 73 楼 ·
Thanks for the info. But I'm still a little confused. If i'm not actually dreaming, trying the RC won't screw up the process, since I'm trying to stay still and fall asleep?
第 74 楼 ·
Thanks for the pointers. I tried again last night> Took 2mg melatonin 30m-1h before sleep. Went to bed, special alarm set for 5h30m later. Woke up, didn't immediately do a reality check again but one within a couple minutes of waking up. Remembered some dreams, wrote them down, went to the bathroom, drank some water, and went back to bed. Did some cycles, had some difficulty concentrating on them, kept getting distracted. Had some more imagery, don't remember of what though. Never felt any tingling or numbness tough. Don't remember whether I finished the cycles or not before I fell asleep. Woke up later, and started the wake up -> do some cycles -> fall back asleep routine. I remembered to do a reality check at every wakeup I remember, at some of them I felt actually uncertain of whether I was in a dream, but ended up finding myself in reality every time. At one wakeup I remembered a dream that I think was pretty detailed, but never wrote it down, and can't remember it anymore. It wasn't lucid though.Didn't remember to stop and observe the imagery :/. Only used one alarm, the one to get me up for WBTB. Should I have gotten up and written down the dream I remembered and subsequently forgot, or would that have "broken the trance" and lowered my chances of succeeding? I'd also been up for almost 24 hours when I went to bed and was very tired, that probably had an effect, causing me to forget to observe the imagery and not get up and write down the dream.
第 75 楼 ·
OPs post makes it seem like its some new revolutionary method, its just wilds though, plus theres a lot of parts trying to differentiate it from wilds, when its just wilds
楼主第 76 楼 ·
Fine. Feel free to use that 13-words "term". I won't.
楼主第 77 楼 ·
LOL, and there I thought I got all grounds covered :P I stumbled upon the Chinese forum in early 2011 when it only had a couple thousand members. Nowadays it has over 90,000!
楼主第 78 楼 ·
If you were not dreaming, just do a few more cycles and go back to sleep, simple like that. SSILD is not WILD and does not require you to stay still.
楼主第 79 楼 ·
24 hours? You must be really tired then, and that's not ideal for lucid dreaming. If you prefer to chain the SSILD (performing a few cycles upon each awakening without getting up) then you should not get up to record dreams as that will break the trance -- some people (including me) like to do that in order to avoid having to get up. Otherwise it's fine.
楼主第 80 楼 ·
It also appears to me that you confuse "type of lucid dreams" with actual "technique". WILD stands for Wake-Initiated-Lucid-Dream, and describes a particular type of lucid dream which is initiated from the waked state. The counterpart of it is DILD, which describes the type of lucid dreams that are initiated from within a normal dream. These are very broad categories, although they do not necessarily encompass everything, such as spontaneous OBEs. Saying a "technique" is just WILD or DILD is overgeneralization to say the least, and is a common mistake made by people with limited understanding on lucid dreaming. In my post, I always spell it out clearly, using "a WILD/DILD technique" instead of saying just "WILD/DILD". SSILD can result in WILD, DILD, FA, and spontaneous OBE. It is neither a pure WILD nor DILD technique.
楼主第 81 楼 ·
Did you even read the post and my explanation? Unbelievable...
第 82 楼 ·
Had my first lucid dream on my fourth SSILD attempt! It only lasted a few seconds after going lucid though. Dream-initiated, from noticing something that only ever happens to me in dreams. Haven't had any false awakenings still.I've been having a hard time doing all of the cycles. I keep drifting off for minutes at a time, and not into dreamlike imagery, just lying there like I was going to sleep normally. One thing that has slightly helped is counting breaths and focusing on each sense for first 3 breaths, then 4 breaths, and so on, though I still drift off a lot. Is this problematic, maybe it's too much like meditation where you concentrate on the breath? I know drifting off is okay to an extent, but I'm not even getting to finish all my cycles before falling asleep. Other people must have had this problem too, do you have any tips for dealing with it?
第 83 楼 ·
nope im well aware of the terms and what they mean
第 84 楼 ·
i did
楼主第 85 楼 ·
Drifting off in general is better than not, so basically it's a nicer problem to have, LOL. Counting breathing is fine because that essentially is focusing on body sensations and does not involve too much mental activities. To make yourself drift off less, simply stay awake a bit longer before returning to bed to do SSILD. Try to increment the time only little by little, say, a couple minutes, until you find the most optimal schedule for yourself.
楼主第 86 楼 ·
then what's the point you are trying to make? If you do understand what the terms mean then you should be aware that you are making a false statement.
第 87 楼 ·
nope
楼主第 88 楼 ·
Mind to present your case and give your reasons? We are not 6-year-olds are we?