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宇宙之铁楼主第 31 楼 ·
The LD community in China is very young. It started only a few years ago. The community saw major growth in the past couple of years though, partly thanks to the movie Inception, and the effort of a Chinese dreamer named 追梦蚂蚁 (Literal translation would be "Dream Pursuing Ant", LOL).Because it's so young, the Chinese dreamers are not nearly as accustomed to lucid dreaming theories/practices as their western counterpart. This lack of exposure/experience is compensated by willingness to learn and embrace new things, thus providing a perfect ground for newly developed techniques such as SSILD.As for "standard" things to do in a LD I don't think they are much different. After all, we are all humans, LOL. Theory wise, they are heavily influenced by Buddhism, Taoism, and surprisingly, Robert Monroe. I myself have become one of the major voices promoting a more scientific approach instead of the occult ways, and we seem to be gaining the majority of the vote after nearly two years.
Mr12i第 32 楼 ·
Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't.
宇宙之铁楼主第 33 楼 ·
LOL, that's pretty awesome. As for the light thingy it is not true. Do NOT let other people tell you what can and cannot be done in your dreams! Anything is possible! It **is** a little bit more difficult to get lights to work, but it **can** be done. Actually turning on lights is a good way to stabilize your dream and brighten it up. Even when the action fails you will probably notice that somewhere else lights up. For example, the light in other room, outside turns day from night, etc. Once I had the experience that whenever I flip the switch it caused lightenings to occur outside in the dark sky. It was really cool.
宇宙之铁楼主第 34 楼 ·
I also wake up frequently and I do SSILDS during these awakenings. Granted they are not the best way to SSILD, but you can get them to work with practice.
宇宙之铁楼主第 35 楼 ·
Right after each other. If you prefer to wait that's fine also.
宇宙之铁楼主第 36 楼 ·
There are 2 possible causes. The eye twitching can be a sign that you are entering the dream state, and it is largely illusory. Unfortunately it can be difficult to handle and even experienced dreamers are likely to fail and end up waking up for real. Another cause is that you are simply not relaxed sufficiently and you are exerting too much force to the eye muscles. If you encounter these problems with SSILD, it is a sign that you are not doing the technique correctly and probably misunderstood it.
宇宙之铁楼主第 37 楼 ·
Good luck to you! I'm very confident about this technique. If you have questions need answered, please feel free to mail me at cosmic.iron@gmail.com
宇宙之铁楼主第 38 楼 ·
Yes you can. The more comfortable you feel the better.
宇宙之铁楼主第 39 楼 ·
If your RC is successful then you should be able to get up with your dream body.
宇宙之铁楼主第 40 楼 ·
Yes you need to have them closed all the time.
宇宙之铁楼主第 41 楼 ·
Try not to count. It doesn't need to be precise.
宇宙之铁楼主第 42 楼 ·
Naps work, but not ideal because they are usually too short. You will probably have better result with other techniques.
宇宙之铁楼主第 43 楼 ·
That's fantastic!
宇宙之铁楼主第 44 楼 ·
SSILD works especially well with supplements, if you do it correctly, that is. Melatonin is not exactly an LD trigger. In fact, it suppresses LD! What it does is to suppress REM sleep, thus creates more NREM deep sleeps. When taken prior to sleep, it gives you a few hours of deep sleep with little REM sleep in each sleep cycle. After its effect diminishes, due to REM rebound effect, you start to have a lot REM sleeps stacked together. This in turn gives you better chance to LD. What you have been doing though is exactly the opposite, and that will cause you to have even less REMs than usual!Do this instead: take Melatonin 1 or 2 hours before going to sleep. Wake up after 4 or 5 hours and take Galantamine and some Alpha GPC. Go immediately back to bed to perform a few SSILD cycles and allow yourself to fall asleep ASAP afterward -- try to do it before the supplements cross the blood brain barrier which takes approximately an hour. You will almost guaranteed to have lots and lots of LDs/OBEs!
宇宙之铁楼主第 45 楼 ·
Make sure you get a few hours of sleep before trying the technique, otherwise it may not work very well :)
宇宙之铁楼主第 46 楼 ·
There are several ways to do it.1. Upon every subsequent awakening, perform a few SSILD cycles. If you are in FA doing so will likely result in immediate sensations to occur.2. Remember to RC every time you wake up.3. Upon waking up, immediately relax the back of your head and allow it to sink into the pillow. Focus on hearing at the same time. If successful, you will experience vibrations. This trick while slightly more difficult to master, has the added advantage which may help you enter a phase from a real awakened state in addition to FAs.
宇宙之铁楼主第 47 楼 ·
You are free to label it as anything, but what you are saying shows lack of understanding on how SSILD works. You probably didn't even bother to read the text carefully. Let's get some facts straight:1. It is repeatedly mentioned in the instruction that the technique should not be used as WILD method and achieving WILD should be seen as only a byproduct. Attempting to achieve WILD through this technique will cause it to perform poorly and the user may lose sleep.2. The majority of success come from subsequent DILDs, FAs, and spontaneous OBEs, not WILD.3. In practice, SSILD takes a fraction of the time required for WILD. It does not require you to stay awake for extended period and it encourages falling asleep quickly once the required cycles have been performed.4. SSILD does not require relaxation, visualization, auto suggestion, and so on. It doesn't even require one to stay still. Try that with WILD!5. Since SSILD was deployed 2 years ago, it has helped thousands of people who never had any luck with traditional WILD/DILD methods. Its success rate is many times higher than traditional WILD techniques.There are numerous additional differences between SSILD and traditional WILD methods, but I won't list them all because you sound like you won't really care anyway.
Mr12i第 48 楼 ·
>sadly there is no commonly accepted terms to describe this type of experiencesCommon term:>lucid dream that appears to initiate from the location where you're sleeping
None第 49 楼 ·
I agree that phasing is a good term. Sounds similar to www.obe4u.com's way of saying it.
Coachskau第 50 楼 ·
Actually a good term for that is *qualia.* Basically things one cannot express with words.
None第 51 楼 ·
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Noobydoob第 52 楼 ·
I agree with the point about what is or isn't possible in your dreams. I've actually read a few lines of text and remembered them clearly enough to write them in my dream journal without being lucid.
kdudeclone第 53 楼 ·
Ok i'll try going back to bed after WBTB quicker
None第 54 楼 ·
perfect. So excited to try it :)
latino666第 55 楼 ·
Yeah but what RC could I possibly do when lying there with my eyes closed?
VenTheTwilightPrince第 56 楼 ·
Thanks! I had a semi-lucid dream with SSILD last night but I didn't have much control over it. I was sort of stuck in my house and wasn't able to get out before losing lucidity. Any tips?
octalsons第 57 楼 ·
Wow, that completely disagrees with this [highly upvoted post](http://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/comments/17gffp/proper_use_of_melatonin_please_upvote/), which says that melatonin increases REM and recommends that you take it after waking from the 4-5 hours sleep. I don't know what to believe now.
blackangel153第 58 楼 ·
Wow, thanks bro. It appears I have been misinformed. Hopefully this will be a lot easier now, thanks!
octalsons第 59 楼 ·
Oh, I did, I followed the instructions. [These](http://pastebin.com/zWGMikTE) are the complete notes from my lucid dreaming log for last night. It was also only my third night trying to lucid dream at all, I only got interested in LD very recently.
None第 60 楼 ·
its wilds dude