Senses Initiated Lucid Dream Ssild

Originally Posted by Sydney:
Hmm, that didn't work either.
Maybe I just need to try it some more Will again tonight.P.S.: When focusing on my body, what should I be "expecting" to feel?Also I think I know what may be the problem. I never know when I'm in the trance. It doesn't feel like I'm in it when I stop doing the cycles and fall asleep.
--------Any out-of-normal sensations: heaviness, movement, numbness, itch, tingling, and etc. You can also actively imagine movement of certain body parts, for example, wiggling of fingers and toes, slow spinning of stomach, head sinking into pillow, and so on. The reason I didn't include these in the technique is this sort of active techniques can sometimes cause people to lose sleep. However, in your case it seems you can fall asleep pretty quickly so maybe you can give it a shot.

Originally Posted by CosmicIron:
Any out-of-normal sensations: heaviness, movement, numbness, itch, tingling, and etc. You can also actively imagine movement of certain body parts, for example, wiggling of fingers and toes, slow spinning of stomach, head sinking into pillow, and so on. The reason I didn't include these in the technique is this sort of active techniques can sometimes cause people to lose sleep. However, in your case it seems you can fall asleep pretty quickly so maybe you can give it a shot.
--------Okay, thank you. Still though, how do I know when I'm in the trance?

This is exactly what i needed, a technique that gives me a mix of both lucids and obes! I'm so gonna try this one

I had what I think was a success with this last night. I recognized I was dreaming and I did try to assert control (I tried to give myself a weapon and pick up cars with my mind) yet at the same time I never felt I was in control of myself. It was as if my brain was having me act in accordance to how it thinks I would act if I were to go lucid.

Tried it today and failed :-) I was extremely tired when I went to take a nap. I did the repetitions but they kept me awake and I got interrupted a couple of times by outside noises and light rls. There was one moment where I felt my arm went a little numb just like in sp. But that went away and I fell asleep soon after it. Nothing happened.Will try again tomorrow! Seems like it'll actually work!

Failed tonight cuz I couldn't fall asleep. The reason was that the airforce flew over my house at 3AM -.-!

2nd LD in three days with this tactic. Only reason I didn't have a third was because I slept all through the night and didn't wake up to try monday. I was doing the cycles and felt my body just feeling weird. I got up and did a reality check and sure enough I was dreaming. That was pretty freaky.

Originally Posted by JeanLucGodard:
2nd LD in three days with this tactic. Only reason I didn't have a third was because I slept all through the night and didn't wake up to try monday. I was doing the cycles and felt my body just feeling weird. I got up and did a reality check and sure enough I was dreaming. That was pretty freaky.
--------That's awesome!How many cycles did you do before your body started feeling funny?

I think I was on my fourth when I adjusted to my normal sleeping position. That's around when I believe I fell asleep. I guess I just started dreaming that I was still doing it.

I didn't get any more LDs after that 2 with this technique :/
But I think I was lazy this last days, I will try it better tonight.I tried last night but made only 2 or 3 cycles before falling asleep and something crazy happened.
I flew from my bed and fell in the ground near my bed. I heard my sister coming and asking me what happened, then I woke up again in my bed :O
I couldn't recognize that it was a FA :/ But it was kinda funny xD

Decided to get back to LD-ing. I'll start out with this method, seems simple enough

Originally Posted by Rubens:
I didn't get any more LDs after that 2 with this technique :/
But I think I was lazy this last days, I will try it better tonight.I tried last night but made only 2 or 3 cycles before falling asleep and something crazy happened.
I flew from my bed and fell in the ground near my bed. I heard my sister coming and asking me what happened, then I woke up again in my bed :O
I couldn't recognize that it was a FA :/ But it was kinda funny xD
--------That was both awsome and hilarious.

"Try to pick up any colors, lights, or images" I thought it said "Try NOT to".I did it this morning but it was hard for me not to pick up any images so I was fighting it a little. Until I forgot it I started sort of dreaming about my repetitions but was still awake and that really felt like it was helping. I already had 8 hours of sleep so it wasn't working. I felt the same effect as I did the other day. Will try it again next time, maybe this afternoon!

A quick question, so I don't do anything wrong :S When you do theese cycles do you focus on what you see, hear and feel at the same time or do you seperate them?

Originally Posted by Appe96:
A quick question, so I don't do anything wrong :S When you do theese cycles do you focus on what you see, hear and feel at the same time or do you seperate them?
--------do them seperately but if you end up mixing them up upon being in the trance its fine.

I think i will try this method, but can i try to do it right when i fall asleep or no? You dont suggest it i know but i get slightly scared waking up in the middle of the night so i dont try wbtb's

Originally Posted by Arilou:
I think i will try this method, but can i try to do it right when i fall asleep or no? You dont suggest it i know but i get slightly scared waking up in the middle of the night so i dont try wbtb's
--------Good point, I am usually to tired to WBTB so CosmicIron, would it hurt to do this as we're falling asleep? I fall asleep using Isochronic tones so relaxing is no problem.

Originally Posted by Sea07:
Good point, I am usually to tired to WBTB so CosmicIron, would it hurt to do this as we're falling asleep? I fall asleep using Isochronic tones so relaxing is no problem.
--------That wouldn't be very effective. I suggest instead of a full-blown WBTB, just wake up after 5 hours of sleep, go to bathroom, then immediately go back to bed to do the exercise.

Okay then what would be the best way to wake up for wbtb but without an alarm clock? Do mantras work?

Originally Posted by Arilou:
Okay then what would be the best way to wake up for wbtb but without an alarm clock? Do mantras work?
--------You could try, "I will be aware when I wake up." Since you wake up at different times during the night and you don't realize it.
Hope that helpsOh and CosmicIron, if I wanted to combine SSILD with WILD in one night, could I wake up at say, after 4 hours and 30 minutes, and then do SSILD? Then wake up later to do WBTB and WILD?Do you think doing SSILD that early would work?
It's just a thought.

Originally Posted by Sydney:
You could try, "I will be aware when I wake up." Since you wake up at different times during the night and you don't realize it.
Hope that helpsOh and CosmicIron, if I wanted to combine SSILD with WILD in one night, could I wake up at say, after 4 hours and 30 minutes, and then do SSILD? Then wake up later to do WBTB and WILD?Do you think doing SSILD that early would work?
It's just a thought.
--------Based on the feedback I've seen from many users, the answer is yes.

Originally Posted by CosmicIron:
Based on the feedback I've seen from many users, the answer is yes.
--------Sweet!Got any good tips on waking up that early besides an alarm? xD
Actually instead of 4 hours and 30 minutes I was thinking more like 4 hours.

Four hours is what I do. Gives you more room for error, in case your alarm doesn't snap you out immediately.

@CosmicIronAlright, thanks.@SydneyDo you want to wake up without an alarm after four hours sleep? You could try mantras, or drink heaps of water before you sleep (:

Originally Posted by Sea07:
@CosmicIron
Alright, thanks.
@Sydney
Do you want to wake up without an alarm after four hours sleep? You could try mantras, or drink heaps of water before you sleep (:
--------Ok, will do.
It seem like I keep waking up later and later in my sleep naturally, sometimes not even waking up at all! I think the problem is though that I don't drink as much water as I should.

I woke up at 3:30am and 4:30am last night, the latter was planned on an alarm. I can't remember which it was on.. but as I am wrtiting this now I think it was the second time I tried this technique. In fact, yes. The first time I just tried a WBTB because I went to the toilet and to something else for 5 mins and went back to bed. Woke up at 4:30 and tried this - I think I did 3/4 cycles and then had a lucid dream. Well, I don't remember where is started and finished or how I realised but .. it was as if, I dreamed that I had a lucid dream? Either way, I distinctly remember being able to jump really high and flying, both of which I did purposefully, before attempting an succeeding to change the landscape to a beautiful american sunny suburb. Like in hollywood 90210 or something.So I'll try it again tonight.I'm going to mix it with a MILD and DILD technique with this also. Doing 10+ reality checks a day and then going to bed relaxed saying 'I will remember my dreams'. Then waking up via alarm at 4:30 and trying this technique.

@SydneyRighto, yeah a full bladder will do wonders for waking you up.

I tried again last night and found that nothing happened. I'm pretty sure it's because I wasn't tired. I had already slept around 3 hours in the mid afternoon, and went to bed an hour earlier than usual. I know it because I SHOT out of bed to turn off my WBTB alarm. Anyway, I did around 3 cycles, turned on my side and didn't even fall asleep for around 20 minutes. So AFAIK all is done is just wake my self up more. I think I need to try it when I could wake up and literally fall asleep straight away, and try to keep myself awake to do a couple of cycles.

Careful with the water. I used to do that and something that happened too often was drinking so much it would interrupt my REM cycle so instead of waking up nicely and with some energy I would wake up completely smashed and after using the bathroom I would pass out immediately.

@jeanLucGodardAh, good point. That wouldn't be helpful.