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dakotahnok第 181 楼 ·
Originally Posted by mcwillis:
I doubt it was just your intent as it has been producing awesome results and yours can be added. Several people are saying 'last night', are you doing this with wbtb or before a nights sleep?
--------I'm pretty sure its not a placebo. I'm just not 100% sure.I used it with wbtb. I stayed up for like 5 minutes.
I doubt it was just your intent as it has been producing awesome results and yours can be added. Several people are saying 'last night', are you doing this with wbtb or before a nights sleep?
--------I'm pretty sure its not a placebo. I'm just not 100% sure.I used it with wbtb. I stayed up for like 5 minutes.
windhover%40第 182 楼 ·
^I agree with you that this is not a placebo...WILD, DILD are placebo :
I think I found another theory behind this technique./have you guys ever wondered that why you lucid dream well during naps or late morning, not EARLY in the morning?
The reason is, that the brain structure which allows us to produce those 'dream-like images(hypnagogic images)' called interbrain or diencephalon, is activated with cerebrum both awake together easily at that time, which makes us lucid in dream fluently. However, during night, like I said early in the morning, there's a high possibility of interbrain and cerebrum being asleep.
So using SSILD, you can activate your interbrain a little stimulating your senses (seeing, feeling, hearing) thus, you can have either OBE, WILD, or even DILD, or at least you suspect your dream!
well just my opinion. what do you guys think?
I think I found another theory behind this technique./have you guys ever wondered that why you lucid dream well during naps or late morning, not EARLY in the morning?
The reason is, that the brain structure which allows us to produce those 'dream-like images(hypnagogic images)' called interbrain or diencephalon, is activated with cerebrum both awake together easily at that time, which makes us lucid in dream fluently. However, during night, like I said early in the morning, there's a high possibility of interbrain and cerebrum being asleep.
So using SSILD, you can activate your interbrain a little stimulating your senses (seeing, feeling, hearing) thus, you can have either OBE, WILD, or even DILD, or at least you suspect your dream!
well just my opinion. what do you guys think?
mcdreamy第 183 楼 ·
Although I don't really know anything about brain science, thats interesting.
dakotahnok第 184 楼 ·
Originally Posted by [email protected]:
^I agree with you that this is not a placebo...WILD, DILD are placebo
--------where do you get WILD and DILD are plecebo? I can't agree with that.As far as your theory. It is possible.
^I agree with you that this is not a placebo...WILD, DILD are placebo
--------where do you get WILD and DILD are plecebo? I can't agree with that.As far as your theory. It is possible.
windhover%40第 185 楼 ·
well I'm not saying WILD and DILD are placebo per se, I meant that those take more intent and right mindset with some effort to have them during night than/contrary to SSILD. just my opinion, well most of my WILDs are from intent in my head without a thought, it's simple but it's kinda hard
sydney第 186 楼 ·
That does sound interesting, the way SSILD works.
sydney第 187 楼 ·
No luck last night. Woke up, did my WBTB, got back in bed, and did about 1 and a half cycles before my mind wandered and I fell asleep.Darn..
taffy第 188 楼 ·
Ok, I gotta remember to do this. I keep forgetting. >_>
windhover%40第 189 楼 ·
Had FA again. Semi-LD - I practiced levitationI had a dream that I almost got lucid...
dakotahnok第 190 楼 ·
No luck last night either. Im trying to stay away from my MILD technique, so this better end up worth it.
dannyy第 191 楼 ·
The huge success rate with this method seems promising. I'll give it a try tonight!
windhover%40第 192 楼 ·
One thing that's missed for this technique (I think), is the intent at the end of cycle!! You have to 'intend' to have WILD or DILD or whatever the techqniue it is, your mind have to have desire to LD, without a thought, without a doubt.Carefully following the steps is perfectly fine I think, but with intent I think it would be more successful
mcwillis第 193 楼 ·
Originally Posted by [email protected]:
One thing that's missed for this technique (I think), is the intent at the end of cycle!! You have to 'intend' to have WILD or DILD or whatever the techqniue it is, your mind have to have desire to LD, without a thought, without a doubt.
Carefully following the steps is perfectly fine I think, but with intent I think it would be more successful
--------That isn't what CosmicIron prescribes. He recommends that the technique should be done passively so as to drift away into sleep after four or five cycles I don't think intent should be introduced at all. It is a technique in itself devoid of the need for intent.
One thing that's missed for this technique (I think), is the intent at the end of cycle!! You have to 'intend' to have WILD or DILD or whatever the techqniue it is, your mind have to have desire to LD, without a thought, without a doubt.
Carefully following the steps is perfectly fine I think, but with intent I think it would be more successful
--------That isn't what CosmicIron prescribes. He recommends that the technique should be done passively so as to drift away into sleep after four or five cycles I don't think intent should be introduced at all. It is a technique in itself devoid of the need for intent.
dakotahnok第 194 楼 ·
Originally Posted by mcwillis:
That isn't what CosmicIron prescribes. He recommends that the technique should be done passively so as to drift away into sleep after four or five cycles I don't think intent should be introduced at all. It is a technique in itself devoid of the need for intent.
--------You need intent no matter what in order to lucid dream. Without any inten its almost guaranteed that you won't have any lucid dreams.
That isn't what CosmicIron prescribes. He recommends that the technique should be done passively so as to drift away into sleep after four or five cycles I don't think intent should be introduced at all. It is a technique in itself devoid of the need for intent.
--------You need intent no matter what in order to lucid dream. Without any inten its almost guaranteed that you won't have any lucid dreams.
mcwillis第 195 楼 ·
Originally Posted by dakotahnok:
You need intent no matter what in order to lucid dream. Without any inten its almost guaranteed that you won't have any lucid dreams.
--------Nonsense. I have had many DILD's without intending to have them. I wager that if you instructed 100 people to use this method for a few weeks without the knowledge of what might happen as a result and who also have no desire to have lucid dreams then some of them would have lucid dreams.
You need intent no matter what in order to lucid dream. Without any inten its almost guaranteed that you won't have any lucid dreams.
--------Nonsense. I have had many DILD's without intending to have them. I wager that if you instructed 100 people to use this method for a few weeks without the knowledge of what might happen as a result and who also have no desire to have lucid dreams then some of them would have lucid dreams.
dakotahnok第 196 楼 ·
Originally Posted by mcwillis:
Nonsense. I have had many DILD's without intending to have them. I wager that if you instructed 100 people to use this method for a few weeks without the knowledge of what might happen as a result and who also have no desire to have lucid dreams then some of them would have lucid dreams.
--------Did you know what lucid dreaming was at the time of having them? If so then yes, there was a small bit of intent. If no then you are a "natural". Which is a special circumstance that not everyone can have.And until you do that experiment you can't use it to back up your statement.
Nonsense. I have had many DILD's without intending to have them. I wager that if you instructed 100 people to use this method for a few weeks without the knowledge of what might happen as a result and who also have no desire to have lucid dreams then some of them would have lucid dreams.
--------Did you know what lucid dreaming was at the time of having them? If so then yes, there was a small bit of intent. If no then you are a "natural". Which is a special circumstance that not everyone can have.And until you do that experiment you can't use it to back up your statement.
sydney第 197 楼 ·
I emailed CosmicIron about one of my attempts, where I was doing everything correctly and wasn't getting results. Here is what he exactly said:
Hi,Normally people do the exercise with a lot of mental effort and expect immediate result. This is a common mistake that causes them loss of sleep. Since the exercise is designed to work after you fall asleep, losing sleep will not help you succeed. Your problem, on the other hand, is the exact opposite -- you fall asleep too quickly without entering the trance. The trance is the state when you become deeply relaxed, your mind begins to wander, and you often forget about the exercise. The longer we hold onto this state, the more likely we will succeed later. This is much easier to deal with than the losing sleep problem . You can try the following solutions:1. Increase the number of repetitions. Do not fall asleep until you sense you have entered the trance -- mind begins to drift, you forget which step you are into the exercise, and etc.2. With each cycle, you should feel you are going deeper into the trance. The sensations should feel more real with each cycle. For example, do not expect to be able to see anything during the first couple of cycles, but in later cycles you should observe a bit more intently and expect to see something out if the dark. Same thing goes for hearing things. In the beginning you don't expect to hear anything but later you should expect to hear the noise in your head more clearly. Please be careful though -- do NOT force yourself if you absolutely don't feel anything. Being able to fall asleep always has much higher priority.3. During the last step where you try to fall asleep quickly, you may want to occasionally quickly glance at the darkness behind your closed eyelids. Do this very quickly and sparingly, do not focus and absolutely do not stress your eye muscles! If you feel this is keeping you from falling asleep then you should drop it and let go of everything to fall asleep ASAP.You don't have to do all three above. I suggest you try them and find the right balance between entering the trance and falling asleep. If anything, you don't want to lose sleep so please do not stress yourself!
--------Hope this helps some of you
Hi,Normally people do the exercise with a lot of mental effort and expect immediate result. This is a common mistake that causes them loss of sleep. Since the exercise is designed to work after you fall asleep, losing sleep will not help you succeed. Your problem, on the other hand, is the exact opposite -- you fall asleep too quickly without entering the trance. The trance is the state when you become deeply relaxed, your mind begins to wander, and you often forget about the exercise. The longer we hold onto this state, the more likely we will succeed later. This is much easier to deal with than the losing sleep problem . You can try the following solutions:1. Increase the number of repetitions. Do not fall asleep until you sense you have entered the trance -- mind begins to drift, you forget which step you are into the exercise, and etc.2. With each cycle, you should feel you are going deeper into the trance. The sensations should feel more real with each cycle. For example, do not expect to be able to see anything during the first couple of cycles, but in later cycles you should observe a bit more intently and expect to see something out if the dark. Same thing goes for hearing things. In the beginning you don't expect to hear anything but later you should expect to hear the noise in your head more clearly. Please be careful though -- do NOT force yourself if you absolutely don't feel anything. Being able to fall asleep always has much higher priority.3. During the last step where you try to fall asleep quickly, you may want to occasionally quickly glance at the darkness behind your closed eyelids. Do this very quickly and sparingly, do not focus and absolutely do not stress your eye muscles! If you feel this is keeping you from falling asleep then you should drop it and let go of everything to fall asleep ASAP.You don't have to do all three above. I suggest you try them and find the right balance between entering the trance and falling asleep. If anything, you don't want to lose sleep so please do not stress yourself!
--------Hope this helps some of you
taffy第 198 楼 ·
Tried last night, passed out after two reps. I didn't recall anything when I woke up though, so I have no idea if it worked or not. :/
dakotahnok第 199 楼 ·
Originally Posted by Sydney:
I emailed CosmicIron about one of my attempts, where I was doing everything correctly and wasn't getting results. Here is what he exactly said:
--------
Hope this helps some of you
--------Just remember, no matter the technique, results aren't guaranteed to work every time. At least not at first.
I emailed CosmicIron about one of my attempts, where I was doing everything correctly and wasn't getting results. Here is what he exactly said:
--------
Hope this helps some of you
--------Just remember, no matter the technique, results aren't guaranteed to work every time. At least not at first.
happenloo第 200 楼 ·
中国水军前来围观，看英文真吃力……
carrot第 201 楼 ·
Originally Posted by happenloo:
中国水军前来围观，看英文真吃力……
--------這裡的人大多數都是講英文的。
中国水军前来围观，看英文真吃力……
--------這裡的人大多數都是講英文的。
mcwillis第 202 楼 ·
Originally Posted by happenloo:
中国水军前来围观，看英文真吃力
--------很抱歉，但中國海軍有做這個線程？我不能說中文，所以使用谷歌翻譯。
中国水军前来围观，看英文真吃力
--------很抱歉，但中國海軍有做這個線程？我不能說中文，所以使用谷歌翻譯。
happenloo第 203 楼 ·
welcome to baidu tieba of China，talk about Lucid Dream
码几个英文真辛苦，一号水军玄朔先生报道，有后续的水军来吗？the 水军 means I like 灌水，in China it means
I can 形容 sorry
hope sb. can 解释I forgot the link
search www。baidu。com,then enter "清明梦".fand the "清明梦吧"
lucid Dream website
It's the Chinese biggist website which is research and Communicate Lucid Dream.or
tieba。baidu。com/f?kw=%C7%E5%C3%F7%C3%CE#
turn "。"to" ."
码几个英文真辛苦，一号水军玄朔先生报道，有后续的水军来吗？the 水军 means I like 灌水，in China it means
I can 形容 sorry
hope sb. can 解释I forgot the link
search www。baidu。com,then enter "清明梦".fand the "清明梦吧"
lucid Dream website
It's the Chinese biggist website which is research and Communicate Lucid Dream.or
tieba。baidu。com/f?kw=%C7%E5%C3%F7%C3%CE#
turn "。"to" ."
windhover%40第 204 楼 ·
I forgot to do SSILD during night, but I had awesome semi-LD again! I practiced dream battle with Sanji from One Piece lol. and I tried to do SSILD in dream...
carrot第 205 楼 ·
Originally Posted by happenloo:
the 水军 means I like 灌水，in China it means ……
I can 形容 sorry
hope sb. can 解释
--------有沒有另外個詞來形容“灌水”？中國人用的有些新詞我還看不懂，太久沒上微博了。哈哈。Basically I think he meant he's from China and he's just looking around. He said that there's a lucid dream forum dedicated to Chinese in China and here's the link: http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kw=%C7%E5%C3%F7%C3%CEHe wants to invite us over to chat with them about lucid dreaming but I guess there would be some communication difficulties.Originally Posted by mcwillis:
很抱歉，但中國海軍有做這個線程？我不能說中文，所以使用谷歌翻譯。
--------That is surprisingly accurate for google translate. But some words can't be taken literally and he's definitely not from the Navy. I'm not quite sure what those two words meant too.
the 水军 means I like 灌水，in China it means ……
I can 形容 sorry
hope sb. can 解释
--------有沒有另外個詞來形容“灌水”？中國人用的有些新詞我還看不懂，太久沒上微博了。哈哈。Basically I think he meant he's from China and he's just looking around. He said that there's a lucid dream forum dedicated to Chinese in China and here's the link: http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kw=%C7%E5%C3%F7%C3%CEHe wants to invite us over to chat with them about lucid dreaming but I guess there would be some communication difficulties.Originally Posted by mcwillis:
很抱歉，但中國海軍有做這個線程？我不能說中文，所以使用谷歌翻譯。
--------That is surprisingly accurate for google translate. But some words can't be taken literally and he's definitely not from the Navy. I'm not quite sure what those two words meant too.
mcwillis第 206 楼 ·
Originally Posted by Carrot:
That is surprisingly accurate for google translate. But some words can't be taken literally and he's definitely not from the Navy. I'm not quite sure what those two words meant too.
--------I didn't think it was working quite as it should be
That is surprisingly accurate for google translate. But some words can't be taken literally and he's definitely not from the Navy. I'm not quite sure what those two words meant too.
--------I didn't think it was working quite as it should be
sydney第 207 楼 ·
Originally Posted by dakotahnok:
Just remember, no matter the technique, results aren't guaranteed to work every time. At least not at first.
--------Yeah, I know. I just wanted to email him just to see what he thought about it.
Just remember, no matter the technique, results aren't guaranteed to work every time. At least not at first.
--------Yeah, I know. I just wanted to email him just to see what he thought about it.
happenloo第 208 楼 ·
[QUOTE=Carrot;1861973]有沒有另外個詞來形容灌水？中國人用的有些新詞我還看不懂，太久沒上微博了。哈哈。哈哈，不为难你们了，用简单的意思的解释一下。水军是论坛内使用的名字，指代一类人。他们不是jus t looking around。just looking around这类人称为潜水。
水军意味着他们喜欢灌水。我们把论坛比喻成酒，水军喜欢往酒里灌水，使论坛的话题变得失去味道 。
他们通常喜欢发些无关紧要的话题，或者胡乱回复。他们可以是一个论坛变得热闹，也可以使一个论 坛变得无聊
OK，差不多这么解释吧，还期待有其他中国人过来一起玩呢~In China the "Senses Initiated Lucid Dream (SSILD)" is named "太玄经"。
I try many times but I only success oncethe first time I try this method.
now I have no Lucid Dream near by two weeks
水军意味着他们喜欢灌水。我们把论坛比喻成酒，水军喜欢往酒里灌水，使论坛的话题变得失去味道 。
他们通常喜欢发些无关紧要的话题，或者胡乱回复。他们可以是一个论坛变得热闹，也可以使一个论 坛变得无聊
OK，差不多这么解释吧，还期待有其他中国人过来一起玩呢~In China the "Senses Initiated Lucid Dream (SSILD)" is named "太玄经"。
I try many times but I only success oncethe first time I try this method.
now I have no Lucid Dream near by two weeks
yuppie11975第 209 楼 ·
^^^^Same for me happenlooHow many times you try?
happenloo第 210 楼 ·
Originally Posted by yuppie11975:
^^^^
Same for me happenloo
How many times you try?
--------can't discride. I usually try it without right procedure. And often, I haven't do all the procedure before I sleep.
^^^^
Same for me happenloo
How many times you try?
--------can't discride. I usually try it without right procedure. And often, I haven't do all the procedure before I sleep.