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宇宙之铁楼主第 31 楼 ·
Thank you, and our observation that the phase methods required "precision", whereas SSILD uses a relaxed approach is very well put. This indeed is a defining characteristic of SSILD.
AlexCoolBos第 32 楼 ·
I had a lucid dream last night!Thank you!
宇宙之铁楼主第 33 楼 ·
That's great! Thank you for posting the result! :)
John第 34 楼 ·
"Focus on Sight: Close your eyes and pay attention to the darkness behind your closed eyelids. Don't strain your eye muscles though. Your eyeballs should be resting, totally relaxed. If you don't see anything that's only normal"It's not accurate (not in my experience, anyway) to say you don't see anything, is it? When you close your eyes you see a swirling pattern of blacks and greys with some areas lighter than others.
宇宙之铁楼主第 35 楼 ·
That really depends on the individual as well as the timing and other conditions, IMO.
John第 36 楼 ·
I couldn't get the "standard" SSILD above to work so I experimented a bit and my variation has been successful for me. I've got some other possible experiments I'd like to try; not sure what experiments you've done, cosmic, and what sort of experiments you'd be interested in doing. Do you want me to put the experiment ideas on here cosmic or would you like me contact you some other way?
宇宙之铁楼主第 37 楼 ·
Please feel free to post your experience/experiments here so other people can learn from. Thank you!
Anonymous第 38 楼 ·
How long can a lucid dream take. I m working to stabilize my lucid dreams
宇宙之铁楼主第 39 楼 ·
That really depends. If you can chain them then it's possible to have them last a long time. Each single LD though is usually less than 40 minutes, often significantly less.
John第 40 楼 ·
This is one of the experiments I tried with SSILD. It incorporates some visualisation. I am not sure what experiments you have done, cosmic, so not sure what lines of experimentation I am able to rule out.For the visual part, I visualised a black "wall" in front of my eyes with a white dot (a hole) in the middle. For the hearing part, I just listened to the "ringing" in my head. For the feeling, I felt my eyeballs in a static position (but relaxed position) staring at the white dot of the wall.When the dream began, I had tunnel vision and instantly realised it was a dream.The second night I tried this it didn't work and I went on to try other experiments I was keen to try(none has worked).What are your thoughts on this?
Anonymous第 41 楼 ·
Is the order see/hear/feel important? Does the tech work just as well if you did, say, feel/see/hear?
宇宙之铁楼主第 42 楼 ·
It's NOT important. Do it in whatever order you wish, and at some point you may lose track of the orders all together - which is a good thing when it happens.
Anonymous第 43 楼 ·
This is my idea. Let me know what you think:You could make the feeling part the "default" - by that I mean it's the first part of the cycle you do (thus feel/see/hear) and it's the FIRST one you go back to after you lose focus/drift to sleep slightly. Instead of just feeling the body, you could attempt a "gentle" levitation instead.
AdeMS第 44 楼 ·
Umm, can i ask about the cycleShould i do all of it at the same time or do it one at a time?
宇宙之铁楼主第 45 楼 ·
One at a time initially. In the end it doesn't really matter. Chances are, as you get closer to falling asleep and random thoughts popping up everywhere, you may notice that you are losing track of the cycles, or doing them all at the same time. This is a good sign that you should drop everything and go to sleep, and wait for magic to happen :)
AdeMS第 46 楼 ·
Well, it's 10PM here, gonna try, thanks :D
Bluecomet第 47 楼 ·
Could SSILD be coupled with the Cycle Adjustment Technique? Just in case you're not familiar with it, I basically wake up 90 minutes earlier than usual for a week, then alternate normal and 90 minute early wake up times each day after the first week. I go to bed at the same time every day. Would changing my sleep schedule like this interfere with SSILD?
宇宙之铁楼主第 48 楼 ·
I think CAT will work with SSILD. Please let us know how it turns out should you decide to experiment with it! Thanks!
Venus第 49 楼 ·
Thank you so much for this! The tutorial is very clear and I can't wait to try it out, but I was wondering: are the cycles associated with Sleep Paralysis, are the cycles ARE Sleep Paralysis or have nothing to do with that phenomenon? And I was also wondering: can your chances be lower or greater with age? Believe it or not, I myself am actually thirteen years old, so I was just curious if that could effect my chances. (My mum has lucid dreams naturally, so I got interested). Please let me know what you think! c:
Anonymous第 50 楼 ·
It has nothing to do with sleep paralysis. In fact, Lucid Dreaming has NOTHING to do with sleep paralysis, and that argument could be made against hypnogogia too.I don't think it has anything to do with age. If at all, it's probably easier to do it younger.
Anonymous第 51 楼 ·
I have used a fan to help me do SSILD. For the seeing step I'll "see" the wall behind the fan. For the hearing step I'll just listen to the fan. For the feeling step I'll just feel the breeze from the fan hitting my face.
宇宙之铁楼主第 52 楼 ·
Wow... that's so very cool!
Anonymous第 53 楼 ·
Pun intended?Hi, currently I'm a beginner without even one LD under my belt, I'm just wondering if we can practice the technique before we actually do it? Like practice before going to sleep?
I'm going to try it tonight since it's 20:27 PM here, so fingers crossed.
If it works be sure to expect a lot - I mean some thanks. *cough*.
Thanks for posting this anyways.
-Anonymoose
I'm going to try it tonight since it's 20:27 PM here, so fingers crossed.
If it works be sure to expect a lot - I mean some thanks. *cough*.
Thanks for posting this anyways.
-Anonymoose
PauloPereir第 54 楼 ·
The ability for someone to elicit a Lucid Dream State is simply just a matter of practice and training.Thanks
宇宙之铁楼主第 55 楼 ·
True, but only if the techniques chosen are indeed effective.
bankeinanin第 56 楼 ·
Man, I have been enormously frustrated with the standard techniques. All except dream journaling. I do have very weak and foggy LD's once a week or so when I don't have a good night of sleep but my results have been meager at best.
I tried your technique just as described last night and I had two LD's! In the first I was doing the technique while dreaming, wondering why it seemed to be giving me insomnia, until the dream turned into something cartoonish, then I became lucid. The second one was longer.
This was after my first ever attempt!Question, why not engage all 5 senses? Such as whatever taste is in your mouth or whatever you're smelling? Why just sight, sensation, and hearing?
I tried your technique just as described last night and I had two LD's! In the first I was doing the technique while dreaming, wondering why it seemed to be giving me insomnia, until the dream turned into something cartoonish, then I became lucid. The second one was longer.
This was after my first ever attempt!Question, why not engage all 5 senses? Such as whatever taste is in your mouth or whatever you're smelling? Why just sight, sensation, and hearing?
宇宙之铁楼主第 57 楼 ·
Engaging all 5 senses might be too complicated, but you are more than welcome to experiment! :)
bankeinanin第 58 楼 ·
Last night, my second time trying this, I had 3 lucid dreams! I even had a beer, which of course ruins REM sleep, and I didn't even fall asleep doing the method fully. I just stopped it and went to sleep withing 30 secs or so. I was finally able to stay lucid for more than a flash of moment, and I began to play with flying and interacting with dream characters. My dreams are not extremely vivid yet, but that's one weak spot I've always had. Lack of a vivid emotional or sensory experience in my dreams.Thank you for this method. This is the only method with an acceptable effort to reward ratio.
宇宙之铁楼主第 59 楼 ·
Thats great! Dream vividness is dependent on a lot of factors, least of which involves skill :) Hopefully as you produce more LDs you will get some truly amazing ones!
Anonymous第 60 楼 ·
After precisely a year of having little successful Lucid Dreams (4-5) This seems perfect!Thank you thank you THANK YOU for inspiring me to try again. I have gained a lot of hope from this!